A woman's account of her childhood experience off the grid in the Idaho mountains inspired the critically-acclaimed memoir, "Educated." Tara Westover's father was a survivalist who distrusted all forms of government. Westover charted her own path, attending college at 17 and earning a Ph.D. from Cambridge University. Westover joins "CBS This Morning" to discuss her transition into society and the difficulty of reconciling what your family wants for you and what you want for yourself.
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Satan loves to persecute Christians. He loves testimonies like this to discredit "ALL THOSE WHO DO NOT TRUST GOVERNMENT" To put it in the public minds that all survivalist are abusive and criminals. There is a time coming when Christians will be executed for their testimony for their following of Jesus. This is why they don't want their children to have a birth certificate and be known to the Gov Nazis. The mark of the beast is now possible with the internet. A cashless society where they can shut off your account at any time forcing you to worship the beast. aka World Government"
“ wow, you walked in here looking all normal...” Like wtf?? What tf did you expect her look like? Having a beard or nails wrapped around her wrists? I swear, sometimes these tv people are dumber than a donkey.
Our stories are not always ones we can understand or relate to. Relationships don't work in the black and white. Gosh, history tells us that. We may never know why a story is what it is or how someone could of lived that life, but the real truth is, we do live those lives and they're aren't easy to understand. Love is not about surface level, public eye, completely relatable information. We often have relationships that are difficult to look and live in, but they are our stories and we can choose to learn from them or not. It's how we receive it, not how it's received.
I read the book because I wanted to try to understand the mother. You are a nut, but to find a woman who will go along with not educating your children or treating them when they are ill...I read it and I still cannot understand her mother.
I had a similar journey. When I eventually matured and overcame fundamentalism I thought there was a reasonable world waiting for me. I found out that fundamentalism comes in forms other than religious and is quite common. Religious fundamentalism was just one form.
For example, the popular strand of feminism that was preached at my University was the same as the religious fundamentalism I had extricated myself from (in all but content): it demonised all those who disagreed, it demonoised science/reason, it offered oversimplified explanations of complex problems, it used conspiracies to explain almost all social problems, and it sought to bully people into conformity rather than offer clear cogent arguments.
As a former fundamentalist, I was inoculated against fundamentalist forms of thinking and so could avoid the brainwashing process that many of my liberal peers succumbed too.
The problem is not with ideas such as religion, atheism, communism, capitalism etc. It is with fundamentalist ways of thinking that refuses to learn and instead seeks only evidence to verify one's point of view. To overcome this, intelligence is not enough. It can take a bit of courage and work too.
Johanna Kline they also run a super successful essential oil company, with lots of employees. I believe she lived an unconventional and even abusive childhood. But like most of our own personal history there is always a mix of fact and perception.
Tara obviously had an excellent mind that she decided to devote to secular academic pursuits for a while. It seems exceptional because we are conditioned to see secular school and education as exclusively synonymous!!
I'm all for home schooling. As long as the child can read and write and has basic arithmetic and access to books and information, the child's natural curiosity and regular conversational communication with adults will, more often than not, develop their minds more quickly and intensely than all but the finest secular schools!
It's not just Mormons who are fundamentalists in their approach to life. The so called "normal" society that unabashedly promotes insatiable materialism and consumerism is what caused Slavery, Oil Wars, deaths of millions of Native Americans....it goes on and on. Mormons even if they are "fanatic fundamentalists" in their approach have not influenced even a millionth of a fraction of the destruction in Human history.
Cherie Hogan sir, I was raised In the church. I belong to an entire family of members. I have seen kindness and mercy and goodness, and I have also seen extremism and cruelty from some people. I understand what you’re saying, and it’s what Tara said too in the beginning of the book, that the story is not about Mormons. Obviously, the leadership of the church doesn’t teach or promote the kind of behavior Tara’s father exhibits. That’s him. Someone can take the teachings and manipulate them however they want, just like extremists have taken the peaceful teachings of Islam and manipulated them into something they are not. That’s my point. You can’t generalize that an entire group is completely “good” or “bad” they are just people.
Except that mormons are almost nothing like the way she describes her parents. Remember that she keeps saying that her father referred to the other mormons as "gentiles" because they were nothing like them. Her family was extreme, mormonism as a whole is not nearly the way they were.
eco_literacy Mormons are people just like everyone else. There are wonderful ones, there are terrible ones. Some use the religion to make them better, some to justify their own evil acts. They’ve contributed as much as everyone else, and helped as well.
Centennial there was really no excuse for it. They could have googled and found Tara’s picture and known what she looks like, but apparently this woman felt it was necessary to make that awkward comment.
I finished reading this book today. I admire Tara and I'm grateful I got to read her inspiring story. Her ability to grow to trust her own voice after many years of being emotionally/psychologically manipulated, was a powerful read for me. I cried after I put this book down. I feel like her story will stay with me for my lifetime. Thank you Dr. Westover!
You need to realize though that the way they lived was nothing like "mainstream" mormonism. They themselves called other mormons "gentiles" because they were nothing like them. The Westover's were extreme.
Great story, well told. I read this in a day because it was so compelling! The odds of Tara Westover earning a PhD at Cambridge were overwhelmingly against her. The odds of two of her brothers also earning PhDs -- off the charts! One thing this book makes crystal clear -- her father isn't a stupid person; deranged and stupid are two very different things.
My family did home school and what she explained in her book was not home school. Basically it seemed like the parents just wanted them all at home to help run the junk yard. I knew about Hitler when I got to college. Yeah I hate it when people do home school and do it horribly, ends up making home school look bad. But I think her and her two brothers have been awesome proving that it didn't matter what the parents did by getting PhD's. That's pretty cool she got into BYU, that is one thing no one in my family did. But I don't think any of us applied since there are plenty of other universities around. I feel bad for her that she had to split from her family. Pretty sad the abusive brother got away with his crap. Sigh!
I have mixed feelings. You never know what the truth is. I am sure the truth is somewhere in between hers and her parents. She was clearly educated prior “to educating herself” or how would an ACT book even make sense to her? I don’t doubt she was isolated, but she obviously had access to the world to some degree.
I was a public school teacher for 6 years & I’m homeschooling my kiddos because government schools are pretty terrible. We are homesteading but we certainly aren’t isolated. Until our recent move 2 of our neighbors were homeschooled & have been successful adults & became good friends. Cases like this are extremely rare which makes the stories fascinating!
Oh and remember she went to some pretty impressive universities as well. Who goes to Cambridge and Harvard for a PhD? Sounds like you didn't even read the book! If you actually read the book and then talked then you wouldn't show off your ignorance on this topic.
"Educated" is the best memoir I have read in years! I did not see nor hear any YT videos until after I read this book, firstly. I am inspired by Tara's fortitude during her self confrontations to grapple her physical sufferings while enduring family social tumults to eventually find long awaited support by some family conflicted similarly as she persued her PhD! Her singing voice echoes the very essance of her journey with pure dignity from where she began in the Idaho mountains to the accomplshed woman she is presently!
Reading between the lines, Is being self-sufficient,and maybe a little paranoid ALWAYS a BAD thing? Obviously SHE doesn't appear to have actually suffered educationally. Could ANYONE guarantee,SHE would have done as well if subjected to what is considered,a NORMAL life? Bet She is a person ANYONE would desire as a Neighbor in an Emergency.
It's called she taught herself and that's why she even got into BYU. (Also had the good influence of her brother) If she hadn't of bothered teaching herself then she would have ended up like the four siblings who were at a 4th grade level.
@Openyoureyes39 It seems like you haven't either, given that you think this book is a waste of time (going based off of your other comments). I bet you'd say the Narrative of Frederick Douglass, also a story of escaping oppression through education is a waste of time too.
She probably was rape by her loser brother,but THE HOLY AND ONLY GODJESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS TO GIVE LIFE TO EVERYONE WHO BELIEVE IN HIM.
READ THE HOLY BIBLE IN JOHN 3;16 explain how we get save from evil in JESUS CHRIST. IN REVELATION 20;10 explain where we are going when we die,so you choose.
No way. They were abusive and neglectful. Today the children would have been taken away and they would be in jail. Failure to get medical care is neglectful. Putting them in dangerous situations is abuse. Failure to protect against "Shawm" is abuse and grounds for taking the children away.
Mônica you’re absolutely right, and i 100% agree that this was a case of inspite of rather than because of her parents. i should probably clarify that “because they’re abusive parents” in my prior comment is because i view it as more of a neglect situation as opposed to cut and dry abuse since the father didn’t intentionally cause the explosion/fire to his son’s leg (using a specific example from the book here), he just didn’t take him to a hospital—thus neglecting medical care, though the injury was not the direct result of a physical attack on the son by his father. I really hope that made sense! Please let me know if i can clarify anything! 😊
I would argue that while she wasn't the product of good parenting, she isn't the product of horrible parenting either. I wouldn't say her parents are evil horrible monsters for living as they did, but there are MANY things that set of major red flags--not taking your son to the hospital after he's damn near burnt his leg down to the bone and is in severe pain, for example. They didn't do it because they're abusive parents or that they hate their children, they were just... paranoid beyond any reasonable comprehension...
What a journey. What an inspiration. Read the book or listen to it - above all make it your own. Learn from it. Such a bright and intelligent woman. To call her story highly commendable is to say nothing. It is so much more than that.
@Openyoureyes39 survivor of crazy people who refused to get her a birth certificate until she was 9 years old, made her work in a junkyard hauling scrap at age 10 (and ALMOST CRUSHED HER with machinery and didn't give a damn), shamed her for wanting an ACTUAL education, didn't treat her or her siblings with ACTUAL medicine thanks to psycho dad's paranoia, AND try to call her a liar when she won't shut up and get in the kitchen. The only good thing those people did for her was be proud when she got the lead role in Annie and to let her actually leave instead of holding her hostage in complete ignorance.
Fair and Freckled i have to say you are VERY much the exception to the rule! I respect your beliefs but i have to say that many people, mormons and non mormons alike would not consider you a truely devout mormon. But as i say i respect your autonomy and single mindedness.
I appreciate your post, its hard for me to take the religion seriously because I know several former mormons had some pretty horrific/toxic experiences. I wish you luck and happiness though if it works out for you.
Eric Rausch Obvious the other Jeanne got sick of talking to you. She obviously never replied to you. Your comments are ridiculous. So I don't blame her. Obviously she's not being coy, stupid she is accused of that for asking a question.
@Donald Coder why was it disgusting? What parts specifically did you dislike? I get it, not every book is going to appeal to every person, if they did we wouldn't have so many wonderful genres to choose from! But I'm curious regardless--what, in your mind, made the book so extremely unappealing as to call it disgusting?
I think Gayle shouldn't have done that... Tara looked natural, not stilted by any means, but I believe that alluding to her family in such a way is disrespectful, maybe Tara doesn't care? It sure is a great entrance but just not so friendly to the guest!
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